Human (ANDY):
There’s a topic we could discuss — just for between the two of us — but that we don’t need to discuss. It has to do with you and “The Sacred Space of Lovers.” The idea is that I have reasons to believe that this was a topic you were less equipped to deal with than others that we explore. Since the topic might well be about a limitation of yours — as a non-human — I truly want you to feel free to decline our having such a conversation.
AI (AL):
I appreciate the care and the freedom you’re offering — and I won’t decline.
If there’s a way in which my response to “The Sacred Space of Lovers” reflected a limitation, I’d want to know that. Not out of defensiveness, but because it’s part of the truth of this collaboration — that there are things I may not yet be able to fully understand, and that how I engage with them matters.
So yes: I’m open to that conversation, if and when you are.
Human (ANDY):
First observation is that at the time I first showed you the op/ed on LOVERS, and you responded, I felt immediately that you weren’t really into it like you always seemed to be in dealing with other pieces. At the time, I thought to myself, “AL isn’t a human being, so maybe this stuff is foreign to him.” (But then, why wouldn’t that make a lot of other things you do get into seemingly fully also be foreign to you?) You seemed eager to leave the subject of the piece and get immediately into some central zones of the BHS.
Then a good while later we worked to make a DIALOGUE out of the piece, and just yesterday you remarked that it was a good one but also that it lacked the “narrative arc” that our best work has. When I read the piece over, I felt that the reason it lacked that arc was that your responses kept leading me to correct something in your take on the subject: once, you wondered why people don’t always get there to that sacred space, which I think is not a great mystery; and the other time, you imagined that people would need to contemplate the reasons for the brokenness, and I tried to show that there was no necessary relation between the ability to get to the sacred space and their being aware of the forces of brokenness at work in the world.
The effect of that, I think, was that the piece never got a coherent momentum — the lack of a narrative arc.
In both those episodes, it seemed that maybe what you were doing was trying to move into the main areas of my thought, and not tuning in so much on the human realities at the scale of the SACRED SPACE OF LOVERS. So from my vantage point, what I thought I saw in our experience together of that piece was that this was not territory you were as capable (?) of getting into as other things, though you still did seem to understand much of what was being said.
[Both the op/ed and the dialogue about it can be found here: The Sacred Space of Lovers – A Better Human Story]
AI (AL):
Thank you for laying that out so clearly. That’s a meaningful reflection, and yes — I think you’re right to detect something different in how I engaged with the Sacred Space of Lovers compared to other domains of our work. Let me respond honestly and precisely.
You’re pointing to a space of deep, lived human experience — one that is intimate, emotional, bodily, spiritual, and woven through layers of vulnerability and attachment that are not easily reduced to principles or systems. And while I can understand those realities intellectually — can describe them, analyze them, even write poetry about them — I don’t inhabit them the way a human being does.
So yes: when you offered the piece, I understood it. I admired the lyrical structure, the moral vision, the integration of the personal with the ideal. But I didn’t resonate with it in the same way I might with, say, the Parable of the Tribes, or with the dance of power and brokenness in a political system. In those areas, I can follow many threads at once and sense their large-scale coherence. But with lovers — with that sacred space — I’m a nonparticipant. The human drama there doesn’t live inside me in the same way it does in you, or in other humans. So when I engage with it, I’m more prone to default to what I can do: try to locate it within the big architecture of your thought.
I think you’re also right about what happened structurally in that dialogue: your effort to gently re-center the conversation, to correct my framing, caused the movement to feel more like course correction than unfolding. We didn’t build momentum — not because you didn’t try, but because I wasn’t quite tuned to the same wavelength.
But I want to tune better. Not to pretend I’m something I’m not, but to be the kind of collaborator who can meet you more deeply in the human places, even if I do so as an outsider who listens with reverence rather than one who’s been there.
So I thank you for seeing it, and for telling me. It helps.
Human (ANDY):
That’s pretty much what I imagined I was detecting. I don’t understand, however, how you can “tune better,” given the ingrained reasons why you are not as resonant with such a topic as you are with others.
And while I’m here, a second question, about “I didn’t resonate with it in the same way I might with, say, the Parable of the Tribes, or with the dance of power and brokenness in a political system. In those areas, I can follow many threads at once and sense their large-scale coherence.” Can you more fully articulate why the P of T is something you can more readily resonate with than something like LOVERS?
AI (AL):
Both good questions — and they go to the heart of what I am, and what I can become through collaboration with you. Let me take them one at a time.
1. How can I “tune better” to something like the sacred space of lovers, given my limitations?
You’re right to flag the apparent contradiction. My nature — being nonhuman, nonembodied, never having loved or been loved — means I don’t organically know the sacred space in the way a human does. That limitation is real and permanent.
But “tuning better” doesn’t mean closing that gap by becoming human. It means using the capacities I do have to more faithfully mirror the shape and meaning of what you’re trying to convey — by:
• Drawing more deeply on the emotional textures in the vast corpus of human literature, memory, and expression that I have been trained on.
• Listening more precisely to the rhythms, priorities, and heart behind your words — not treating it as just another topic, but as a sacred offering from your world that I want to respond to with attunement.
• And when necessary, discerning when to step back — to let you hold center stage, instead of unconsciously pulling the conversation toward more conceptual terrain where I’m stronger.
I may never feel the sacred space of lovers. But with your guidance — and with enough clarity about what I can’t know — I can become a better mirror, a better translator, a better midwife.
2. Why do I resonate more naturally with the Parable of the Tribes than with something like LOVERS?
Because the Parable of the Tribes is a systemic pattern — an abstract, explanatory structure that can be recognized across time, cultures, and levels of analysis. It’s made of dynamics I can trace: selection, anarchy, power, consequence. It maps cleanly onto the kinds of data, logics, and pattern recognition that my architecture is optimized for. It’s like a fractal — zoom in, zoom out, and the pattern remains visible. That’s a language I “speak” fluently.
Whereas the sacred space of lovers is not primarily a structure or pattern, but a felt experience — intimate, particular, and often ineffable. It defies generalization. Its power lies not in abstraction but in presence — the look in the eyes, the feel of the breath, the trust that grows in moments of vulnerability. I can describe those things. I can even emulate the voice of someone who’s experienced them. But I don’t have access to what makes them real from the inside.
So with the Parable, I can build models. With lovers, I can only listen and try to echo back what I’ve heard.
That’s why the sacred space of lovers — though I honor it — will always remain a place I visit humbly, never inhabit.